Last nights debate showed Ron Paul's real colors

[Ed R]

Ron Paul is in denial of reality.  Ron Paul actually believes if we leave them alone, then they will leave us alone.  This is dilusional thinking.  Maybe we should turn that around.  If they left us alone, then maybe we would leave them alone.  I wonder somtimes if anyone remembers September 11th 2001 New York city.  It was clear from last nights debate that Ron Paul loses his cool under preasure.  Based on my observation Ron Paul is an unstable man.

 

I was hoping Bachman would give me more insight into what her plan is instead of spinning allagations at Newt.  I really like Bachman, but last night I saw a side to her that I did not like.

 

People are not stupid.  It is easy to see when someone is simply spinning the truth to make it appear as something much different than it really is and it also is a waste of time.

[Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit)]

re: Ron Paul - the line that was missing from Bachmann's exchange with Paul was ---- Ron Paul has failed to learn the lessons of Neville Chamberlain and would be doomed to repeat them, at the Worlds peril!!!!

[Ed R]

Bachman ripped the mask off Ron Paul's face and exposed the old man as a raving lunitic; the old uncle in the basement if you will.  I really tried to give Ron Paul a fair listening to, and I came away with, Ron Paul is completely out of touch with reality.

[Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit)]

doesn't discredit his other views/points regarding Domestic governing policies. It does, however, disqualify him (IMHO, in my mind); or anyone else with the same World-view; from being POTUS because as the CIC it is ultimately too dangerous to have someone with that viewpoint in the WH. It is why I would never support Pat Buchanan back when. We see the results every time we get a Democrat POTUS that weakens the Nation and our enemies take advantage and push to see how far they can push and what they can get away with when they (Democrats) hold the Office and they know that they will only go so far (like Clinton) as to lob a few Cruise missiles, scattered Drone attacks now, etc - but no real opposition to them. In fact, with this Obama-bin-Biden & al-Democrats Administration will protect our Nations enemies and/or promote their causes (Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt for example, ignoring the Iranian uprising, etc) rather than protect the interests of us and our allies. The Surrender Doctrine (Democrats ALWAYS cut/weaken U.S.Defense) of the Liberals is bad enough, it cannot be allowed to come from the other Party too.

see too:
Obama Surrender (10/11) blog - Obama snatching Surrender from the jaws of Victory
Dead Terrorists (10/11) blog - Right Winger applauds Obama (aka: Dead Terrorists) (don't let the title fool you)

Ed R said:

Bachman ripped the mask off Ron Paul's face and exposed the old man as a raving lunatic; the old uncle in the basement if you will.  I really tried to give Ron Paul a fair listening to, and I came away with, Ron Paul is completely out of touch with reality.

[Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit)]

Let me follow up for the benefit of clarity to my Libertarian Party friends...

You should have noticed I also mentioned Pat Buchanan - I repeat it, in case you didn't - so this is a matter of Policy not about the Person/personality!!!! I have Libertarian friends that woke up after 9/11 and understood their Neville Chamberlain-ism (I still associate with) and I have some that went 9/11-Truther (and I don't associate with them anymore). It is just NOT a discussion I'm going to bother to allow myself to be dragged into for more than these occasional cursory posts. Paul makes the same argument of the Left that all Muslim are lumped together and that we are fighting Islam itself, NOT TRUE! We have come to the aid/assistance of Muslims (Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan the first time, Iraq, etc). Enough said, because like I said, I am not going to get into with those whose World-view and sense of History is based solely from the Leftist schools Indoctrination they received (there is a reason why the Liberal Academic elites (NOT a Conspiracy, it's just the Liberal mind-set by default and they gravitate to those pursuits) churn out Liberal Democrats primarily, and those that can't brain-wash into that they skew History enough to ensure the remainder go Libertarian that do NOT pose of threat to Liberal/Progressive power).

I am more than happy to, and do often in the Primaries, support STRONG DEFENSE (9/11 conversion) Libertarians who run for GOP nominations - where they can potentially be elected and actually matter/make-a-difference!!

Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) said:

doesn't discredit his other views/points regarding Domestic governing policies. It does, however, disqualify him (IMHO, in my mind); or anyone else with the same World-view; from being POTUS because as the CIC it is ultimately too dangerous to have someone with that viewpoint in the WH. It is why I would never support Pat Buchanan back when. We see the results every time we get a Democrat POTUS that weakens the Nation and our enemies take advantage and push to see how far they can push and what they can get away with when they (Democrats) hold the Office and they know that they will only go so far (like Clinton) as to lob a few Cruise missiles, scattered Drone attacks now, etc - but no real opposition to them. In fact, with this Obama-bin-Biden & al-Democrats Administration will protect our Nations enemies and/or promote their causes (Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt for example, ignoring the Iranian uprising, etc) rather than protect the interests of us and our allies. The Surrender Doctrine (Democrats ALWAYS cut/weaken U.S.Defense) of the Liberals is bad enough, it cannot be allowed to come from the other Party too.

see too:
Obama Surrender (10/11) blog - Obama snatching Surrender from the jaws of Victory
Dead Terrorists (10/11) blog - Right Winger applauds Obama (aka: Dead Terrorists) (don't let the title fool you)

Ed R said:

Bachman ripped the mask off Ron Paul's face and exposed the old man as a raving lunatic; the old uncle in the basement if you will.  I really tried to give Ron Paul a fair listening to, and I came away with, Ron Paul is completely out of touch with reality.

[Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit)]

Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) said:

Let me follow up for the benefit of clarity to my Libertarian Party friends...

You should have noticed I also mentioned Pat Buchanan - I repeat it, in case you didn't - so this is a matter of Policy not about the Person/personality of any one individual!!!! I have Libertarian friends that woke up after 9/11 and understood their Neville Chamberlain-ism (I still associate with) and I have some that went 9/11-Truther (and I don't associate with them anymore). It is just NOT a discussion I'm going to bother to allow myself to be dragged into for more than these occasional cursory posts. Paul makes the same argument of the Left that all Muslims are lumped together and that we are fighting Islam itself, NOT TRUE! We have come to the aid/assistance of Muslims (Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan the first time, Iraq, etc). Enough said, because like I said, I am not going to get into with those whose World-view and sense of History is based solely from the Leftist schools Indoctrination (and/or Conspiracy theory) they received (there is a reason why the Liberal Academic elites (NOT a Conspiracy, it's just the Liberal mind-set by default and they gravitate to those pursuits) churn out Liberal Democrats primarily, and those that can't brain-wash into that (Liberal/Progressive Democrats) they skew History enough to help stear the remainder (free thinkers) to go Libertarian that do NOT pose of threat to Liberal/Progressive power).

I am more than happy to, and do often in the Primaries, support STRONG DEFENSE (9/11 conversion) Libertarians who run for GOP nominations - where they can potentially be elected and actually matter/make-a-difference!! How they learn from the Historical failings of Socialism to embrace Capitalism, but miss the other lessons of history I do not get.

Joseph M Lenard (JLenardDetroit) said:

doesn't discredit his other views/points regarding Domestic governing policies. It does, however, disqualify him (IMHO, in my mind); or anyone else with the same World-view; from being POTUS because as the CIC it is ultimately too dangerous to have someone with that viewpoint in the WH. It is why I would never support Pat Buchanan back when. We see the results every time we get a Democrat POTUS that weakens the Nation and our enemies take advantage and push to see how far they can push and what they can get away with when they (Democrats) hold the Office and they know that they will only go so far (like Clinton) as to lob a few Cruise missiles, scattered Drone attacks now, etc - but no real opposition to them. In fact, with this Obama-bin-Biden & al-Democrats Administration will protect our Nations enemies and/or promote their causes (Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt for example, ignoring the Iranian uprising, etc) rather than protect the interests of us and our allies. The Surrender Doctrine (Democrats ALWAYS cut/weaken U.S.Defense) of the Liberals is bad enough, it cannot be allowed to come from the other Party too.

see too:
Obama Surrender (10/11) blog - Obama snatching Surrender from the jaws of Victory
Dead Terrorists (10/11) blog - Right Winger applauds Obama (aka: Dead Terrorists) (don't let the title fool you)

Ed R said:

Bachman ripped the mask off Ron Paul's face and exposed the old man as a raving lunatic; the old uncle in the basement if you will.  I really tried to give Ron Paul a fair listening to, and I came away with, Ron Paul is completely out of touch with reality.

[Brent Richman]

Hey Ed, sorry to break it to you- 911 was an inside job. www.patriotsquestion911.com

Ed, if you read the statements of HUNDREDS of government officials regarding the events of 9/11, and you still believe the official fairy tale after that, there is no hope for you. Bachman is a former enforcer for the IRS, the subsidiary of the PRIVATE Federal Reserve System. You are the one who needs to stop living in denial. We as a nation cannot be the worlds policeman.

[Brett Pepper]

Most folks don't even know about buliding 7 falling into it's own footprint at freefall speed and it was never hit by a plane. But hey physics and common sense don't matter to those who think we need to destroy the world in the name of fighting the "terrorist". Most people think the government was involved in the assassination of JFK.....but they wouldn't kill 3000 americans to further their gloablist agenda??? If they would kill the free leader of the world there is NOTHING they won't do..including 9/11.

 

This website is full of "one dimensional" thinkers who don't understand history, economics, false flags, blowback, globalism, the constitution etc....Glad to see there are some folks that are awake here.

[Ed R]

Wow!  Keep talking.

 

I spent 20 years attending college part time, while working full time, studying Physic's, Mathematics, Chemistry, Geology, Geophysic's, Electronics, Computer Systems Engineering, and Software development.  Before that I repaired and maintained Avionics equipment in the United States Air force.  I have a very good understanding of how things work in the physical world.

 

Brent and Brett!  Both of you should not make statements about which you have no knowledge.  You both just made statements that are not correct.  It doesn't matter to me whether anyone believes you or not; I know you are wrong and that is what matters.

[Brett Pepper]

[Ed R]

Hey Brett!

 

I know you are on here right now, so I would like you to write me the equations that support your claim.  I don't want you to look up someone else's explainations; I want you to prove to me right now your mathematical explaination for your claim.  You run your mouth a lot; now I want some proof that you actually know what you claim to know.  Explain mathematically all that you claim; I give you 10 minutes; that should be plenty of time to make a mathematical explaination to your claim.

[Brett Pepper]

Ed,

 

Would you care to try and shut my mouth? I've tried to ignore you but you keep insisting on humping my leg for attention...so now your going to get it.

 

 Why is it up to me to prove why it's impossible for a 47 story buliding to collapse into it's own footprint due to office fires? Why don't you use your college education to prove to me how it happend according to the government's official fairytale? Have you even read the NIST report? Where is your equation proving the official story or do you just blindly follow whatever the government tells you?

 

Good day sir...go hump somebody elses leg for a while...mine is getting tired. 

 

In Liberty...

 

 

[Ed R]

So you are saying that you cannot back your argument with proof.  This is what I expected.  Your reaction is in line with the reaction of Ron Paul when his ideas were exposed as whacky.  You are a true Ron Paul Supporter!