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“Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority”
A conservative summary of the report:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45013499/
The Vatican press release:
http://visnews-en.blogspot.com/2011/10/holy-see-calls-for-reform-of...
English translation from the Vatican News Agency:
http://www.news.va/en/news/full-text-note-on-financial-reform-from-...
What follows are the segments of this 18 pg (or so—depends on the translation and formatting) document that most concern me, with commentary. The quotes are taken from the order in which they appear in the original document.
For non-Catholics, remember that the RCC teaches that the Pope and Vatican are inerrant and the Pope is believed to be God’s vicar on earth. According to this reasoning, whatever any pope said, at any time, has the authority of God Himself behind it.
Disclaimer: I had no part in writing any Vatican documents. I can only share their own words.
Please note the general language of the RCC statement. When I pasted the entire statement into Word, it was 15 pages long (with zero formatting). In that 15 pages, the phrase “common good” appears 22 times. “Universal common good” appears four times. “Universal”, 10 times. And “social” is used 16 times.
Why is this important? Because certain political ideologies use certain language. Communism uses “common good” all the time.
If history teaches us anything, it’s that whenever we hear leaders speak of the “common good”, it’s generally not “good” for anyone but them.
“Communism” was a 4 letter word after WWII, and, as Alinsky himself noted, “Few of us survived the Joe McCarthy holocaust of the early 1950s” (Rules for Radicals prologue). Those who did (like Alinsky) changed their language. They didn’t speak of communists or communism; they spoke of “community organizing” and “common good”. To that list, people like Obama and Emanuel have added words like “universal” (see Rahm’s The Plan) and “social justice”, “progress”, and “fair”.
Ideologues deal in language changes; they believe they control the game if they control the language. The phrase “social justice” is all over the Vatican website and appears twice in this particular Vatican statement.
Here are the quotes that speak most directly to the Vatican agenda (I have several pages of them from just this one statement, but I’ll limit this. Best to read the entire document.)
“The Church, which has long experience in human affairs and has no desire to be involved in the political activities of any nation . . . “
I find this more than a little disingenuous, coming as it does from the only Christian denomination that is itself a state and has historically claimed—and at times exercised—total civil, religious, and political authority.
If the Vatican truly has no interest in being involved in political affairs, then why even issue this statement? Why would the RCC even concoct a plan for a “global public authority” if they don’t see themselves filling that role?
“Every individual and every community shares in and is responsible for promoting the common good. . . communities of believers should take the lead in asking whether human family [sic] has adequate means at its disposal to achieve the global common good.”
If the Vatican is referring to Christian believers, this is not a biblical stance at all. Christ taught that the earth will deteriorate until His Second Coming (Matt 24, Mk 5, Lk 21, Jn 14-16, and the entire books of Daniel and Revelation). His followers are not supposed to focus on trying to fix the world, but on preaching the gospel (Matt 28.19). The world is not fixable; it will be destroyed and made new.
“a spirit of solidarity is called for that transcends personal utility for the good of the community.”
You must sacrifice for “the common good”. That is communism—not the gospel.
The Vatican calls for “abandoning all forms of petty selfishness and embracing the logic of the global common good which transcends merely contingent, particular interests.”
You are unimportant. Your family is unimportant. What is important is that you be forced to give your income to a global public authority. And trust that “authority” to “fix” the world with it.
“On the way to building a more fraternal and just human family and, even before that, a new humanism open to transcendence . . . “
The Bible does not teach humanism or “transcendence” on earth.
You must regard all of earth’s population as your “family”. Why does this sound suspiciously like the “FEMA family”??? The common thread is government control—but here, instead of the Obama admin, it’s the Vatican.
“Blessed John XXIII’s teaching seems especially timely. In the prophetic Encyclical Pacem in Terris of 1963, he observed that the world was heading towards ever greater unification.”
Really? I’m not seein’ that. And once again, this teaching runs directly counter to Christ’s descriptions of the final years of earth.
But this passage is important, because it reminds us that Pope John XXIII also called for “universal common good”. “He also expressed the hope that one day “a true world political authority” would be created.”
Benedict XVI is not the first pope to call for a “global public authority”.
“ In the same spirit of Pacem in Terris, Benedict XVI himself expressed the need to create a world political authority.”
“ A supranational Authority of this kind should have a realistic structure and be set up gradually. . . in support of sustainable development and social progress of all, and inspired by the values of charity and truth.”
This authority will be created gradually and in stages. People would revolt otherwise, so just bit by bit until it can’t be undone.
And who better to turn to for a “values based” economy than the RCC? The Vatican cleverly brings in morality and values, because that sells well with Christians in particular. It also lines the RCC up nicely for being the only possible global structure that has a concern for morality—clearly Wall St and the IMF can’t compete from this angle.
“The establishment of a world political Authority should be preceded by a preliminary phase of consultation from which a legitimated institution will emerge . . . The exercise of this Authority at the service of the good of each and every one will necessarily be super partes (impartial): that is, above any partial vision or particular good, in view of achieving the common good. Its decisions should not be the result of the more developed countries' excessive power over the weaker countries. Instead, they should be made in the interest of all, not only to the advantage of some groups . . . “
In the beginning, it’s voluntary. But in the end, this “Authority” will not make decisions for the good of the U.S. (or any other country); only for whatever it defines as the “common good”.
No national boundaries. Gone.
“ . . . global civil society and a world public Authority . . . citizens make their decisions with a view to the global common good, which transcends national goods.”
You aren’t allowed to determine what will benefit your family anymore. Your allegiance must be to the nebulous, poorly defined, “global common good”.
“Among the policies, those regarding global social justice seem most urgent: . . . policies aimed at achieving . . . a fair distribution of world wealth . . .”
What happens when Obama et al talk about “fair distribution of wealth” on even a national scale? Your taxes and mine go up. The quality of goods and services and health care available to us plummets. That’s communism.
What the Vatican is describing here is a communist agenda, under the guise of Christian charity. This is identical to the “liberation theology” (aka Marxism) the RCC pushed in the 1960s and 70s, particularly in the predominantly Catholic Latin American countries. The label has just been changed to “social justice”—a catch phrase found all over the Vatican website—and of course on the lips of most liberals. All about consolidating political power.
“ . . . one can see an emerging requirement for a body that will carry out the functions of a kind of “central world bank” that regulates the flow and system of monetary exchanges . . . “
A role the Vatican sees itself in. The Federal Reserve has worked so well, why not make that idea global?
“nationalism has lingered on, according to which the State feels it can achieve the good of its own citizens in a self-sufficient way. . . all the nations, great or small, together with their governments, are called to go beyond the “state of nature” which would keep States in a never-ending struggle with one another. Globalization . . . is unifying peoples more and prompting them to move towards a new “rule of law” on the supranational level . . .”
No nations allowed. No national boundaries. Just one global happy family!
“ . . . this transformation will be made at the cost of a gradual, balanced transfer of a part of each nation’s powers to a world Authority . . .”
Again, this is a projected process by the Vatican. It won’t happen all at once, but gradually, over time, each nation will yield its sovereign status to the RCC, if the Vatican has its way.
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Permalink Reply by albaby on January 23, 2012 at 6:13am Jennifer-the Pope is the ultimate authority in matters only relating to the Catholic Church.. His word does not oblige Catholics to anything outside matters of the Catholic religion. His political opinions do not oblige Catholics to anything.
Permalink Reply by Ray Kirkus on January 23, 2012 at 8:04am Great work Jennifer. I didn't know this, but I'm not surprised that the catholic church is a participant in the new world order and in its complicity in the world bank and IMF and establishment of the NWO . Appears from the article that the Pope and God himself promotes its own form of supernatural communism as well.
I hope some other members look into this as well.
On the flip side, this could be taken as another "conspiracy theory" for those who don't want to hear it.
Personally, I was raised a catholic and went through all the BS and attended a catholic school. So I understand exactly what organized religion is for and how it can blindly control the masses. I shudder to think about the extremely loyal catholic politicians who buy into the church's policies and would promote this agenda.. like Rick Santorum, for instance.
Thanks again.. Great Subject and something good to discuss.
Permalink Reply by Janet Blazen on January 23, 2012 at 8:28am Jennifer, I really did like your post. I've known about this for some time now as I have known about "other" issues. But not in the great detail that you put it....Good job ! There "really" are lots of things out there that have to be explored ?
Permalink Reply by Jennifer Groves on January 23, 2012 at 10:08am Al, read medieval European history. The Pope had authority over Europe, and in areas where that was contested, the RCC came down hard on anyone who contested it. They not only burned former Catholics at the stake, they burned ppl who had never had (and didn't want to have) any connection with the Vatican.
Currently, here in the U.S., the Catholic church doesn't have much power. But that doesn't mean the Vatican doesn't have plans. That's why they issued Towards Reforming. That IS their game plan: to have states voluntarily cede their power, gradually giving the Vatican MORE power. These processes usually don't happen overnight.
The RCC was never happy about the results of the Reformation, the distribution of the Bible in languages that people could read, or the fact that Catholicism didn't come out on top when the New World was settled. And they've always wanted that power back.
Hasn't happened in America--yet. But consider our national leaders: 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court, 54% of the House Catholic, and the very real possibility of a Catholic president and vp. If we eventually get to the point where most of our leaders are Catholic (and we're not far from that now), it's not too difficult to see a time when the U.S. might willingly cede some power to the Vatican--all in the name of financial security.
albaby said:
Jennifer-the Pope is the ultimate authority in matters only relating to the Catholic Church.. His word does not oblige Catholics to anything outside matters of the Catholic religion. His political opinions do not oblige Catholics to anything.
Permalink Reply by Jennifer Groves on January 23, 2012 at 10:41am Ray--no question that it's a conspiracy. There are several major conspiracies that have been uncovered in the last decade.
I personally don't believe God has any connection to the Vatican. The structure and teachings of the RCC just aren't in the Bible, though they do reference it from time to time.
I think the question to be asked before joining any religion is, what is this based on? what does it teach? and do some research before joining--starting with reading the writings it's based on, whatever "sacred" text serves as the foundation.
That becomes more difficult when a religion becomes so enmeshed in a culture that it virtually becomes the culture. When one is born into it, it's not as easy to leave. One of the reasons why most Muslims born in Islamic countries stay Muslim (that, and the Qur'an commands to Muslims to kill those who leave Islam).
My best friend growing up was Irish Catholic. Her great-grandfather immigrated to the States a staunch Catholic. The next generation . . . not quite so much. Eventually her father (and the entire family) joined a nondenominational church. Had they stayed in Ireland, I suspect they might still be Catholic. Americans just don't buy into the church-state bit--my ancestors left Europe because of that issue.
I don't think religion per se is the problem, but rather religions that vie for earthly power. This is not the teaching of Jesus Christ, and those who choose to follow Him will seek neither power nor glory. His message was never about pomp and pride, but about humility, servanthood, and salvation. Any religion that deifies or glorifies another human is one to stay away from.
Ray Kirkus said:
Great work Jennifer. I didn't know this, but I'm not surprised that the catholic church is a participant in the new world order and in its complicity in the world bank and IMF and establishment of the NWO . Appears from the article that the Pope and God himself promotes its own form of supernatural communism as well.
I hope some other members look into this as well.
On the flip side, this could be taken as another "conspiracy theory" for those who don't want to hear it.
Personally, I was raised a catholic and went through all the BS and attended a catholic school. So I understand exactly what organized religion is for and how it can blindly control the masses. I shudder to think about the extremely loyal catholic politicians who buy into the church's policies and would promote this agenda.. like Rick Santorum, for instance.
Thanks again.. Great Subject and something good to discuss.
Permalink Reply by Jennifer Groves on January 23, 2012 at 10:48am I have more info to post on this--from the Vatican--but will have to get to that later. Glad some found this helpful!
Permalink Reply by Brett Pepper on January 23, 2012 at 1:46pm Keep exposing this...Folks need to understand the power structure and how we are being led like sheep to the slaughter. Don't forget our branch of the IMF known as the Federal Reserve and our fractional reserve banking system we can still expose these folks before their "social global order" is in place. EVERYTHING MUST BE EXPOSED. The only reason most of this stuff seems like conspiracy "theories" to people is becuase they haven't been presented with enough of the truth. Good Post!
In Liberty...
Permalink Reply by albaby on January 23, 2012 at 8:03pm Jennifer, We're not in medieval times. Isn't the Pope allowed to have an opinion? As a (former) Catholic I was taught that the Pope had authority over the teachings of the Catholic Church and nothing else. Now what is it about this that gives you the idea of a conspiracy?
wishes to make a contribution which MIGHT BE USEFULto the deliberations of the G-20 meeting".
Bishop Toso explained that the aim of the note is "SUGGEST possible paths to follow, in line with the most recent social Magisterium
The council also SUGGEST the reform of current international institutions. They "must become an expression of free and shared agreement among peoples; more representative, and with greater levels of participation and legitimacy. ... They must be 'super partes', at the service of the universal good, capable of offering effective guidance and, at the same time, of allowing each country to express and pursue its own common good, according to the principle of subsidiarity and in the context of the global common good. Only in this way will international institutions manage to favour effective monetary and financial systems; in other words, free and stable markets regulated by an appropriate legal framework and working towards sustainable development and social progress for everyone". What does the word "subsidiarity" in his comments mean? Doesn't your churche's beleifs work for the common good-of mankind?
Religions-including yours-are ALL about power and politics. Like Politics, they promise you a better life tomorrow if you do their bidding today. The difference is, politicians only suggest you will suffer the rest of your life if you don't follow their ordered path, religion says you will suffer for eternity should you stray from their proscribed path. Too many feel they offer the only path to this place called Heaven and only they know the way. It's another form of terrorism, as far as I'm concerned. My thinking is more along the lines of Thomas Paine than of religious leaders. Read "The Age of Reason". Only the first dozen pages should be good enough.
Permalink Reply by albaby on January 23, 2012 at 8:07pm For non-Catholics, remember that the RCC teaches that the Pope and Vatican are inerrant and the Pope is believed to be God’s vicar on earth. According to this reasoning, whatever any pope said, at any time, has the authority of God Himself behind .
That is a lie!
The Pope is inerrant only in the matters regarding the Catholic Church. You (should) know better than that.
Permalink Reply by Jennifer Groves on January 23, 2012 at 8:50pm Al, what you think--and what I think--are irrelevant to what the Vatican actually teaches. You may not grant the pope that much authority--but the Vatican does.
Vicar on earth--yes, the RCC does teach that. Review your early church history--the popes are considered a successive line from the apostle Peter on. God's representative on earth. This is basic Catholic doctrine.
When hasn't the RCC been political? The Vatican is a state. What other church is also a state?
Try reading through the encyclicals--note that each pope quotes previous popes. The message has not changed through the centuries, and if Napoleon hadn't imprisoned the pope, the Vatican would have much more influence now. And it's obvious from this document that the Vatican does seek more power.
Encyclicals here:
Permalink Reply by albaby on January 24, 2012 at 7:12am For matters of discussion, the word the RCC uses is infallible, not inerratnt.
albaby said:
For non-Catholics, remember that the RCC teaches that the Pope and Vatican are inerrant and the Pope is believed to be God’s vicar on earth. According to this reasoning, whatever any pope said, at any time, has the authority of God Himself behind .
That is a lie!
The Pope is inerrant only in the matters regarding the Catholic Church. You (should) know better than that.
Permalink Reply by albaby on January 24, 2012 at 8:26am Jennifer, you said: "
Al, what you think--and what I think--are irrelevant to what the Vatican actually teaches. You may not grant the pope that much authority--but the Vatican does.
It does matter what we think, that is how we derive our opinions. As far as the Pope, every denomination has a leader and as a former Catholic, I was never taught that the Pope was infallible in any matters except those regarding the Catholic Church. He is considered God's representative on Earth-to Catholics. It does not say that he recieves messages carved in stone from a mountaintop.
"And who better to turn to for a “values based” economy than the RCC? The Vatican cleverly brings in morality and values, because that sells well with Christians in particular." Doesn't the SDA teach morality and values?
"But consider our national leaders: 6 Catholics on the Supreme Court, 54% of the House Catholic, and the very real possibility of a Catholic president and vp. If we eventually get to the point where most of our leaders are Catholic (and we're not far from that now), it's NOT TOO DIFFICULT to see a time when the U.S. MIGHT willingly cede some power to the Vatican--all in the name of financial security."
Probably not too difficult for those who are obsessed with the idea that everyone is out to get them. As far as the number of Catholics in those positions, doesn't that seem logical given the large number of Catholics in the population that some would be elected or chosen for those positions? We even allow Mormons to run for president. Horrors! I heard the same fears about JFK and how Catholicism would become the State religion. What would you suggest? That we prevent Catholics from serving the country? Would you feel better if they were Adventists?
Here aare somke more excerpts from your link as regarding your implication that people would have no choice etc.
implementation of financial and monetary policies ... that are effective and representative at a global level, and which seek the authentic human development OF ALL INDIVIDUALS AND PEOPLES".
They must be 'super partes', at the service of the universal good, capable of offering effective guidance and, at the same time, of allowing each country to express and pursue its own common good, according to the PRINCIPLE OF SUBSIDIARITY and in the context of the global common good.
SUBSIDIARITY is an organizing principle that matters ought to be handled by the smallest, lowest or least centralized competent authority. The Oxford English Dictionary defines subsidiarity as the idea that a central authority should have a subsidiary function, performing only those tasks which cannot be performed effectively at a more immediate or local level. The concept is applicable in the fields of government, political science, cybernetics, management, military (Mission Command) and, metaphorically, in the distribution of software module responsibilities in object-oriented programming. Subsidiarity is, ideally or in principle, one of the features of federalism, where it asserts the rights of the parts over the whole.
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