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Started by Jennifer Groves. Last reply by Scott A. Jones May 28.
Started by Scott A. Jones May 28.
Started by Jennifer Groves Dec 13, 2012.
As the first link below won't work, I'll post as much as the program will let me.
Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, this morning we had a discussion on the floor about legislation I am sponsoring to prohibit people convicted of domestic violence from owning guns. My bill stands for the simple proposition that wife beaters and child abusers should not have guns. It says: Beat your wife, lose your gun. Abuse your child, lose your gun. It's that simple. And it's really little more than common sense.
Mr. President, for many months, I had tried to include my proposal as part of the stalking bill. And, finally, on July 25, after agreeing to several changes at the request of my Republican colleagues, my legislation passed the Senate by voice vote.
Mr. President, the compromise we worked out was supported by the most ardent progun Members of this body. And we had an understanding that the leadership on both sides of the aisle would work to get the legislation passed promptly in the House.
Now we have just learned that the stalking bill has been inserted into the conference report on the DOD authorization bill--but without my amendment to keep guns away from wife beaters.
Mr. President, given the understanding that we had with the leadership, this news came as something as a shock to me.
Earlier this morning, there was a suggestion that somehow I was not respecting an agreement we had on this matter. And now this.
Mr. President, this is not how we should be doing business in this body.
Mr. President, I continue to be amazed at just how far the NRA and their supporters are willing to go to let wife beaters and child abusers get guns.
And I think the American people would share my outrage at this. Every year, thousands of women and children die at the hands of family members. And 65 percent of the time, these murderers use a gun.
There is no reason why wife beaters and child abusers should have guns. Only the most progun extremists could possible disagree with that. Unfortunately, these same extremists have incredible power here in the Congress.
Mr. President, I want to make clear to my colleagues that I am not going to let this issue die. The lives of thousands of women and children are at stake. And I'm going to continue this battle for as long as it takes.
Members of Congress on both sides of Capitol Hill need to be held accountable on this. The public has got to know what's going on here.
Mr. President, I'm convinced that the overwhelming majority of Americans would agree.
Wife beaters should not have guns. Child abusers should not have guns.
I didn't speak because I felt the commissioners were there to talk county business, not Federal. Complaining to the County Commissioners about federal laws is like complaining to the gas pump for high fuel prices. It has nothing to do with it.
Really,what good what it do if I did look 1021 and 1022 and give my definition. You wouldn't agree with it anyway. I will look them up though, and if I feel there is an imminent danger to my freedoms, I will search for, and support a group that is willing to take the government to court.
We're not in college now. Thay do that not because wikipedia is a bad source but because they want the students to do their own research. Tell me what they do if you reference conspiracy sites?
Also,if you notice, Wikipedia has footnotes where you can find the source of the information presented. That's far more than the cosiracy sites do. All they refernce is each other.
Please tell us Al baby.. define sections 1021 and 1022 using your reputable sources for support. We await your awesome wisdom from the peanut gallery. Wish you would have done it during public comment last week. You talk the talk so why not walk the walk. I suppose the federal reserve is also a non issue for you. Actually I would like to know if anything the Mainstream GOP does has any issue with you or are you the toe the line kinda guy. Please share o wise one!
I want to say LOTS of bad words right now, BUT I won't !!! Instead I will just take a hot bath and have an nice relaxing drink of camomile tea...................Ahhhhh !
Maybe this Albaby person would like to step up to the podium at the next Commissioners Meeting and talk for two minutes about how "wonderful" the NDAA parts 1021 and 1022 is, (providing he can get past that annoying veterans wife with the camera) I'd LOVE to hear him/her. But him/her would be asked to give his/her name. Not to sure how well that would go over with him/her ?
I wonder how many vererans hid in a foxhole while the "real" soldiers did the fighting?
To all concerned . If you write any paper for any class in any college and cite wikipedia as a source, you get an "F". Thanks for your reputable sources.. see how that works? I wonder what other "reputable sources" you depend on for your information gathering?
Albaby, first thank-you for the referenced site. It will be helpful for future researches. Next I would like to know who you really are behind the tag Albaby. I live too far away to attend regular meetings of your teaparty and so have not had the opportunity of hearing you tell them who you are. Knowing who one is speaking to, gives their conversation more credibility.
Yep, you and your contingent are the only ones that really know what's going on, Ray.
Why haven't you or others that think like challenged the NDAA in Federal court? I'm surprised the Commissioners had to tell you and Janet -who apparently are well schooled in constitutionsl law etc-how to file a suit, Surely you and you followers can do this-even if you are all indigent. Here's how: If you can't afford an attorney,one will be appointed for you. But you probably already knew that.
Patricia, I only decribed the woman's actions as annoying-and I still feel that way. BTW, I must have missed the documentation where the actions against Ray were dismissed. The only thing I could find was that lawsuits Ray filed were dismissed. Could you please repost your findings?
So you had aspirations of becoming a pilot, eh? Oh, well. So did I, but I went to electronics school instead. Did you ask about other positions or were you a going after a Top Gun slot? Did you know there are all kinds of support people needed to keep those planes in the air and maybe you would have quailfied? BTW-pilot positions require college level training before you jump into the cockpit.
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